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Piccolo (Trunks Saga) vs Base Goku (Frieza Saga)
Topic Started: Oct 15 2012, 07:06 PM (1,410 Views)
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No Kaioken allowed. Who wins?
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I think Goku is still slightly superior to Piccolo at that time, but it would be close
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Assuming this is Son Goku post-Zenkai...

I don't think Piccolo would cut it. In fact, I don't think Vegeta would either. Even without Kaio-ken, I don't see them making up the gap, not much was known about the training during Son's absence, with no aim in sight for training, Piccolo's gains could have been standard, putting him close to Son Goku, but not enough to defeat him. I have it a close battle imo. It's not until the 3 years of god-like gains would Piccolo be up too knocking around Freeza and Son Goku at the same time.
Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?
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Could go either way, but I have Goku stronger, given that Vegeta still had a fear for Freeza even though he only felt Initial True Form (before Mecha, but I could be wrong).
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Oct 15 2012, 11:29 PM
Could go either way, but I have Goku stronger, given that Vegeta still had a fear for Freeza even though he only felt Initial True Form (before Mecha, but I could be wrong).
Wasn't he brought back to life when SSJ Goku was fighting him, or was that just filler?
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Oct 16 2012, 12:45 AM
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Oct 15 2012, 11:29 PM
Could go either way, but I have Goku stronger, given that Vegeta still had a fear for Freeza even though he only felt Initial True Form (before Mecha, but I could be wrong).
Wasn't he brought back to life when SSJ Goku was fighting him, or was that just filler?
Oh yeh he was. I think he might have sensed Freeza too (however, him actually seeing Freeza was filler).

Uh, maybe Piccolo would win, since I still think it'd go either way...there's also Goku thinking either Vegeta or Piccolo beat Mecha Freeza, though that's a bit iffy...... :T_T:
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crashbreaka
Oct 16 2012, 12:45 AM
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Oct 15 2012, 11:29 PM
Could go either way, but I have Goku stronger, given that Vegeta still had a fear for Freeza even though he only felt Initial True Form (before Mecha, but I could be wrong).
Wasn't he brought back to life when SSJ Goku was fighting him, or was that just filler?
He was, but he never showed up like he did in the anime.
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Piccolo or Vegeta win. No way to explain Goku asking who killed Mecha, unless if they were stronger than his kaioken-less base at his arrival from Yardrat.

It also explains how come Goku is using ssj in the manga in a shot of his training with Piccolo. Likewise tells how Vegeta jumped him and Trunks so easily power wise despite being a ssj less
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Goku would win imo, but it'd be a very good match.
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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I have Piccolo winning this easily , he was close to Vegeta , and in Frieza saga the gap between Vegeta and Piccolo was preety high.
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i think piccolo takes this, his fusion with nail was pretty epic for his power level.

it would be a close battle as goku knows how to fight at maximum power in all his forms.

but strength wise piccolo has this.

But like someone mentioned earlier, if this is POST zenkai goku after goku/ginyu, then goku takes this SUPER easy.
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TBH, I'm not sure. We know for sure that Goku needed SSJin to beat up Mecha-Freeza... yet he asks Piccolo (Or Vegeta) if they were the ones to kill Freeza.

But I don't think this means that Piccolo > Mecha Freeza, no...

I can't really make up my mind >_< I think that Piccolo might have this, though, as I have him pretty close to Vegeta, whom I have above Namek Saga Base Goku.
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The only reason Goku asked Piccolo and Vegeta was because they were the strongest two of the Z fighters. Neither one of them came anywhere close to Freiza at that point. You guys are making too much of that statement.
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not only too much of it, but the end result was that it was because he couldnt imagine anyone else with a ki that big on earth.

In the end it turned out to be trunks. So it really doesnt make a difference. Shows Gokus ignorance really.

Not to mention you guys are going way to far ahead from frieza to trunks saga.

Piccolo hasnt had a power up since nail, and this is whether or not he can beat frieza saga base goku.

SOT.

If this is POST zenkai goku? he has no chance.
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The thing is, Piccolo or Vegeta would have to be near the power that Mecha Freeza was emitting to merely stand a chance, let alone defeat him

Vegeta >= Piccolo >= Mecha Freeza (Suppressed) > Initial True Form Freeza >= Base Goku (Post-Zenkai)

In my eyes, Piccolo has this.
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